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Thursday, 17 May 2012

CHRISTIAN MINISTER REPLIES TO MUSLIM CLAIMS

Dr Alan C. Clifford answers Mr Iftikhar Ahmad (London School of Islamics)

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Iftikhar ahmad <london_school_of_islamics@btinternet.com> wrote:

 
Western civilisation is based on Judeo-Christian-Islamic doctrine. The late Pim Fortuyn’s view of Islam as backwards because of its views on homosexuality. Christians and Judaism also share the Islamic view. Why did Pim pick on Islam?
 
AC reply 1: Sodomite PF felt safe in a non-Muslim context because Dutch Christianity has largely become 'PC' liberal, as has much Judaism. However, Orthodox Christians like myself condemn sodomy, as we also condemn Islam for its barbaric penalties for sodomites, and its debased Muslim views of marriage and the humiliation of women therein.
 
Multiculturalism involves a level of complexity which cannot be understood from the prospective of any single discipline. Instead, historical, cultural, linguistic, political, economic, educational, sociological and psychological factors and processes all play critical role.
 
AC reply 2: Multiculturalism is 'PC' nonsense when it concerns moral principles and systems of law. You Muslims use M'ism as a tool to promote the overthrow of our Christian-based democratic heritage in favour of shari'a. You are dishonest deceivers of the first order!
 
Multiculturalism is not about integration but about cultural plurality. It is not about separation but about respect and the deepening awareness of Unity in Diversity. Each culture will maintain its own intrinsic value and at the same time would be expected to contribute to the benefit of the whole society. Multiculturalism can accommodate diversity of all kinds – cultural, philosophical and religious – so that we can create a world without conflict and strife. Britain can assume the role of accommodation and concern for all peoples, for our planet and indeed for our survival. We live in a rapidly changing world.
 
AC reply 3: M'ism is a mistake for reasons given above. Your idea of diversity ends up as division not unity. If Muslims believe in pluralism, why are Christians denied liberty in Saudi Arabia? If you ever gained power in the UK, you would treat the Christian dhimmis likewise. But you are not honest enough to admit that! Hence Islam has no valid place within Western culture and is rightly resisted.
 
Islam is the largest non-Christian faith in Britain, and has the worst press. It is the only religion about which it is permissible to publicly express uninformed hostile opinions. According to Lord Hattersley, fundamentalism is less acceptable when it is not white. Islam has been a focal point for the new racism, and remains on the edge of mainstream British life. The changing political and legal environment in western countries across the board has undermined the quality of life of western Muslims. Many face discrimination in the work place, are victims of racial and religious profiling, international travel has become difficult and risky. Islamic institutions, and particularly Masajid and Islamic Charities face harassment and unnecessary scrutiny. The murder of a Dutch film producer, the denial of a visa to the US for Tariq Ramadan and the humiliation deportation of Yusuf Islam from the US immediately on arrival are all front page news all over the world. Cryer caused great offence within the Muslim community by her pronouncements on issues of children not speaking English at home, and her criticism of transcontinental marriages. The choice of wives ensures that the children will grow up confident and familiar in both cultures. France officially mourns Pope but bans Muslim scarf. It shows the hypocrisy of French Secularism.
 
AC reply 4: Led by apostate Christian leaders and blinkered pro-islamite socialists, Islam shows growth as nominal Christianity declines. That said, have you ever asked why Islam gets a bad press? Is it for no reason at all? Besides the gross intolerance of your UK militant bombing types, the violent and oppressive track record of Islam overseas creates justified fear of what you would do if you gained mainstream influence. You whine and howl as victims as if you are innocent. But you are not. You are a threat to be resisted by civilised society (or what remains of it after secularism has done its own damage). As I've said many times, if you don't feel comfortable in the West, return to your ancestral origins and leave us alone! While jihad drives you to impose your decadent ideology, you'll never be welcome here. It is grossly unreasonable to tolerate those who have no intention of tolerating us.
 
Islam is not a culture but a body of principals and universal values. British Muslims are enriching for the whole society. From the Middle Ages, Islam has participated in the building of a European as well as British consciousness. The influence of Islamic civilisation on the literary and philosophical traditions is innumerable.
 
AC reply 5: Of course Islam is a culture, and a bad one. The principles and values of Islam are anti-Christian and to the detriment of human happiness - except for you Muslim men who use and abuse your women (and available kuffar females) for your self-centred erotic satisfaction. Islam has nothing to give us that Christianity doesn't already offer. Christian-based civilisation has contributed enrichment to human happiness. The opposite is the case regarding Islam. Indeed, Islam has done nothing to enrich the world for most of its history and certainly for the last 600 years.
Your verdict on the benefits of Islam is not correct, even though scholars argue that early Islam transmitted the philosophy and science of the classical world to the West when Europe was still in darkness. The scholarly work of Averroes (building on the earlier achievements of Avicenna) and others reflects the fact that as Islamic military expansion spread westwards from Arabia to Egypt and once-Roman North Africa, Muslims eventually absorbed the civilised features of the cultures they conquered.
However, the transmission of Graeco-Roman culture was not intrinsic to Islam. As the history of al-Andalus (Moorish Spain) makes clear, once the conquering warriors of Muhammad settled down, a softer life-style induced a more cultured existence at centres like Seville and Cordoba. This could not continue indefinitely when successive waves of more fanatical radicals from the Atlas Mountains arrived only to awaken their brothers from their slumbering compromise with infidelity. This is precisely what is happening in Europe and the UK now. While Muslim immigrants are enjoying the benefits of Western economic progress, they are tempted to prefer their adopted life-style to the more traditional austerities of the Islamic world. Such compromise with infidelity is regarded as a threat to orthodox Islam by radical imams and their militant activists, who then pressurise the moderates to conform to jihadist ideals.
 
AC reply 6: LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, there is no salvation in Islam. Since you reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God and only Saviour of the world, you cut yourself off from all hope of salvation. Since you deny that He died on the cross for our sins, you can never know forgiveness. For this ultimate reason, the world needs Christ not Muhammad. You Muslims need what we Christians have to offer. The last thing we need is soul-damning Islam. I pray you will leave your dark delusions behind and embrace the Gospel of God's Grace in Jesus Christ.
Dr Alan C. Clifford



Posted by Hazlett Lynch at 14:53
Labels: Cults, Historical Theology, Moral Issues, Pastoral matters, Spiritual warfare, The Preaching of the Gospel, Witnessing

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